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Ages 8–12 Curiosity & Trivia

Short & Curly

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A playful philosophy podcast that asks big questions about right, wrong, fairness, and truth, helping curious kids aged 8, 12 learn how to think, not what to...

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Short & Curly is the fun and educational ABC Kids and Family podcast that makes philosophy and ethics easy, entertaining, and thought-provoking. Hosted by Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith, the show explores big questions for kids about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty, and art. Perfect for kids aged 8–12, Short & Curly is loved by families, parents, and teachers worldwide. One of the best kids shows for curious minds, it inspires learning, laughter, and big ideas that help children learn how to think, not what to think. Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content. Classroom Resources: Listen to the podcast in the classroom or as homework and use these resources to explore and expand upon the diverse themes and subjects covered in the show.

Fast Facts

Audience
Ages 8–12
Network
ABC Australia
Format
Listen in any order
Typical length
21 min
Episodes
188
Topics
Society & Culture, Philosophy

Episodes

188 episodes

  1. BITES – Being forced to step out of your comfort zone?

    3 min 16 July 2026

    It feels soooo nice staying in your comfort zone – it's so comfortable there! But stepping and stretching outside your comfort zone is an important part of life. Is it right when schools or parents push us to do things outside our comfort zone, before we’re ready? Or is a gentle push sometimes the only thing that will get us moving?

  2. BITES – Is it fair if siblings get the same things at different ages?

    4 min 15 July 2026

    It was supposed to be the greatest day of Carl’s life – finally, his parents said he was old enough to go on the big dipper ride at the fun park. But! Carl’s parents let his little sister go on the ride the same day! Is it fair that she only had to wait to be 8-years-old, but Carl had to wait to be 10? How do we tell the difference between something being truly unfair, and something just... making us feel jealous?

  3. BITES – Getting annoyed when people don’t say your name properly?

    3 min 14 July 2026

    Names are really important things – they form such a big part of our identities. But for people with less common names, or names with uncommon spellings, it can get really exhausting constantly correcting people's pronunciation. How important is it that we pronounce people's names correctly, and how annoyed can we be when people get ours wrong?

  4. BITES – Do adults-only areas discriminate against children?

    4 min 13 July 2026

    There are heaps of seemingly cool places that kids aren’t allowed to visit – fancy resorts, or sometimes even rock concerts. Most of the time we accept these rules, but are they actually unfair? And if we were to let kids into adult places, would we have to start letting adults in kids' spaces?

  5. BITES – What is the meaning of life?

    12 July 2026

    That’s right Curly Crew, we’re going there. We’re answering the big kahuna, the ultimate question – what is the meaning of life? No spoilers here! But it definitely involves snacks, I reckon.

  6. A fairy tale by the campfire – is it okay to scare kids into being good?

    22 min 31 March 2026

    At Camp Short & Curly, the marshmallows are toasty, the swings are wild, and Molly’s Amazing Cool Book Club is about to begin — but her stories? YIKES! From creepy sea witches to thumb-chopping tailors, why were some old fairy tales so weird and scary? A quick warning: this episode includes some old fairytales which are pretty gross, dark and scary sometimes – they even mention violence and death. If you’re not in the mood for that, it might be a good idea to listen to a different episode instead.

  7. The Emperor’s New Clothes - the nudie musical edition

    24 min 31 March 2026

    In this epic musical retelling of The Emperor’s New Clothes, Molly and Carl take you deep into a kingdom where following fashion rules and telling the truth is harder than it looks. There’s a sneaky tailor, an emperor who’s obsessed with her wardrobe, and a whole crowd pretending to see invisible clothes — until one brave kid says what everyone’s thinking.

  8. Little Red Riding Hood - Why are wolves always the baddies?

    21 min 31 March 2026

    Why are wolves always the villains in old European fairy tales? And is it OK to stereotype animals, or people for that matter? To investigate, Molly, Carl and Eleanor head off on a fairytale research trip to the snowy forests of Germany. But their adventure takes a spooky turn when they get lost on the way back to their hotel in the woods, with just one little torch to guide them...

  9. Rumpelstiltskin – is it OK to break a promise?

    23 min 31 March 2026

    Short & Curly's world-famous investigative journalist Molly Daniels uncovers a juicy fairytale scandal full of royal drama, magical gold, and a very peculiar little man named... Rumpelstiltskin. But things get serious too— what if a promise you make is made under pressure? Do you still have to keep it?

  10. The Ugly Duckling – when is excluding someone mean, and when is it OK?

    22 min 31 March 2026

    A group of ducklings decide one of their own just doesn’t fit in. He can’t keep up with their games, and — let’s be honest — kind of ruins the vibe. But is it fair to leave someone out just because they don’t have rizz? And is it even possible to create a close-knit group of friends without turning someone else into an outsider?

  11. What were Molly and Carl like at 10-years-old?

    5 min 24 March 2026

    Molly and Carl are celebrating a special anniversary... and you are, too! Happy 10th birthday Curly Crew, thanks for all your curly questions and phenomenal feedback. (And get excited for a new season, dropping soon!)

  12. BITES – Being scared of spiders

    4 min 18 December 2025

    Molly’s just an itsy bitsy cutesy spider, but Carl is freaking out! Lots of people are scared of spiders. In fact, people can be scared of a whole range of things you might find surprising, like a fear of clowns or paper or pancakes. But is that OK?

  13. BITES – Driverless cars

    4 min 17 December 2025

    Cars that drive themselves are no longer just something you’d see in a sci-fi movie… they’re on roads and highways right around the world. But what should happen if something goes wrong? Whose fault would it be – the passenger? The manufacturer? The... car itself?!

  14. BITES – Grown-ups making the rules

    3 min 16 December 2025

    Who’s in charge at school? Why, that would be the teachers. And who is in charge at home? Your parents or carers. Who is in charge of running the country? Politicians, that’s who. And what do they all have in common?! They’re all grown-ups! How is that fair?!

  15. BITES – Cats VS Dogs

    4 min 15 December 2025

    As long as kitties have been meowing, and puppies have been prowling, people have asked - which is better, Cats or Dogs? Finally, the Short & Curly crew tackle this colossal question... but is it even a philosophical question?

  16. BITES – Judging people because of who they're friends with

    4 min 14 December 2025

    Molly is having a party so she’s invited over the usual gang – Carl, Eleanor, Tony Ravioli and… the Joker! Batman’s nemesis!! And he’s not a great guy, what with all the crimes he’s committed in Gotham City. Is Molly making the right call here? Should you judge people because of who they’re friends with? Thanks to Violet for this quirky conundrum.

  17. Should you have to pass a test to have kids?

    23 min 1 October 2025

    We test for everything: to get a licence, to move to the next grade, to prove you're ready to use a pen. But when it comes to becoming a biological parent, there's no test to pass. Should there be? Would a parenting test be a good idea? Brains Trust — Gibbs Street Public School, Perth: Fitzroy, Shahla, Jorja, Nafi, Tabitha, Gumaan Listen to Short & Curly, the fun and educational ABC kids podcast about philosophy and ethics. Join hosts Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith as they explore big questions about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty and art. Perfect for tweens aged 8–12, families, and teachers, Short & Curly is one of the best kids shows for curious minds. Combines storytelling, philosophy, and comedy Perfect for school listening, car trips, or family discussions Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

  18. Is it wrong to think bad thoughts about people?

    20 min 30 September 2025

    We all have thoughts about other people that we’d never say aloud. But do our private thoughts say something about the kind of people we are? Or is it only our actions that count? Brains Trust - Gibbs Street Public School, Perth: Layla, Avjot, Johanna, Imogen, Sampada, Claudia. Listen to Short & Curly, the fun and educational ABC kids podcast about philosophy and ethics. Join hosts Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith as they explore big questions about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty and art. Perfect for tweens aged 8–12, families, and teachers, Short & Curly is one of the best kids shows for curious minds. Combines storytelling, philosophy, and comedy Perfect for school listening, car trips, or family discussions Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children’s content Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

  19. Graffiti or Gallery? When does graffiti become street art?

    23 min 30 September 2025

    Ever walked past a spray-painted wall and thought, "That's actually really cool and beautiful!" But is it art or just stylish vandalism? Molly and Carl grab some spray cans and dive into the messy, colourful world of graffiti to ask: when does a rebellious scribble become art, and who gets to decide? Brains Trust — Gibbs Street Public School, Perth: Fitzroy, Shahla, Jorja, Nafi, Tabitha, Gumaan Listen to Short & Curly, the fun and educational ABC kids podcast about philosophy and ethics. Join hosts Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith as they explore big questions about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty and art. Perfect for tweens aged 8–12, families, and teachers, Short & Curly is one of the best kids shows for curious minds. Combines storytelling, philosophy, and comedy Perfect for school listening, car trips, or family discussions Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

  20. Risky Rescues: Should you save someone who ignored warnings?

    21 min 30 September 2025

    There's wild surf at the beach today, but people are still choosing to swim outside the area patrolled by lifeguards. If those swimmers get into trouble out there, should other people put themselves at risk to save them? Or does ignoring the warnings mean you're on your own? Brains Trust — Gibbs Street Public School, Perth: Fitzroy, Shahla, Jorja, Nafi, Tabitha, Gumaan Listen to Short & Curly, the fun and educational ABC kids podcast about philosophy and ethics. Join hosts Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith as they explore big questions about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty and art. Perfect for tweens aged 8–12, families, and teachers, Short & Curly is one of the best kids shows for curious minds. Combines storytelling, philosophy, and comedy Perfect for school listening, car trips, or family discussions Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

  21. Bad dog or bad owner? Who’s really to blame?

    21 min 30 September 2025

    Most dogs are loving companions, but what about the ones that bite, bark, or cause chaos? Is a dog's bad behaviour their own fault or is it down to the way they were raised? From neglected pups to misunderstood mutts, we dig into the debate: Who's really responsible when a dog goes rogue, and what should we do about it? Brains Trust — Gibbs Street Public School, Perth: Layla, Avjot, Johanna, Imogen, Sampada, Claudia. Listen to Short & Curly, the fun and educational ABC kids podcast about philosophy and ethics. Join hosts Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith as they explore big questions about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty and art. Perfect for tweens aged 8–12, families, and teachers, Short & Curly is one of the best kids shows for curious minds. Combines storytelling, philosophy, and comedy Perfect for school listening, car trips, or family discussions Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide

  22. Can you lie even when you don’t say anything?

    24 min 1 April 2025

    The line between truth and deception can be blurry. Is leaving out important information a lie? What about misleading gestures, or half-truths? Babysitting Matt's kids force Molly and Carl to confront these complexities firsthand as they lie to get out of tricky situations. Summer Hill Public School: Dimitri, Mia, Teddy, Milla, Cleo, Marcus

  23. Shape shifters — When is something no longer itself?

    22 min 1 April 2025

    Join Molly and Carl as they valiantly attempt a world record sailing around the globe on their boat, the Theseus. Faced with a constant need for boat repairs, they are forced to confront a perplexing question: how many changes can you make to something before it's no longer the same thing it started out as? South Wagga Public School: Noah, Lucas, Jasmine, Hunter, Olivia

  24. Do we need a rule book to be a good person?

    22 min 1 April 2025

    Molly and Carl visit Greece in search of the mythical "Scroll of Rights and Wrongs", an ancient guide written by the smartest person to have ever lived: Adamantia The Wise*. The elusive ancient text contains the ultimate guide to morality, but what does it say? South Wagga Public School: Noah, Lucas, Jasmine, Hunter, Olivia *definitely not a real person and very much the invention of Molly & Carl.

  25. Three siblings, one musical instrument, who should get it?

    24 min 1 April 2025

    Have you ever had a fight with your sibling over who should get to keep something? In a small village a long time ago, Queen Ethiconia had to settle a dispute between three siblings fighting over a musical instrument they all want and all think they deserve: a wooden recorder. Each says the recorder should be theirs, but for very different, compelling reasons. So, who should get the flute? You decide. South Wagga Public School: Noah, Lucas, Jasmine, Hunter, Olivia

  26. Matt's big news: How to give up something you love

    22 min 1 April 2025

    As a kid, Matt, our resident ethicist, was always flat out. He juggled volunteering in the school veggie garden, playing sports, sibling duties, music practice, and chores around the house. After a while, it started to feel overwhelming, even though they were all important responsibilities that he cared about! But do humans try to do too much and is okay to just simply do nothing when there are so many important things the world needs? Summer Hill Public School: Dimitri, Mia, Teddy, Milla, Cleo, Marcus

  27. BONUS – Goodbye Matt, thanks for the memories

    9 min 1 April 2025

    See if you can work out which episodes these classic Matt moments are from as we say goodbye (but hopefully not forever) to our wonderful ethicist Matt Beard.

  28. BITES – Dog poo in the bin

    3 min 21 December 2024

    You are enjoying a walk with your four-legged friend, when they do a big stinker on the street. Don't worry — you're prepared! You've brought the dog poo bags! But do you really have to carry the smelly parcel of poo all the way home? Is it okay to put your dog poo in someone else's bin? Thanks to Genevieve for this stinky dilemma!

  29. BITES – Paying people to be kind

    3 min 20 December 2024

    Everyone says it's good to be kind and that acts of kindness can make the world a better place. But often we aren't as kind as we could or should be. So should we pay people to be kind? Would it make the world a better place? Thank you to Pepper for this awesome question!

  30. BITES – Friends inviting themselves over

    3 min 19 December 2024

    It's fun to hang out with our friends, but sometimes we need a bit of alone time. Maybe you want to listen to your favourite music and sing along loudly. Or curl up in a special place and read a book. So should you always say yes if someone asks if they can come over to your house? Thanks to Melissa for this curly question!

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